retail operations in countries like india, korea. they've been growing in excess of 15% to 20% a year, and in latin america where they've been growing in excess of 30%, this really gives us a leg up in geographic areas where we didn't have operating platforms. so you combine that with our $1.5 billion platform in europe and our $4 billion platform in north america, it really gives us a leg up on most of the other apparel. and competitors. >> we have steve tanger on. tanger factory outlet today. great partner of the calvin klein brand. you're going to keep that strategy, right? >> oh, absolutely continue to grow that business. we see ourselves with the jeans and underwear business in north america really being able to enhance that business. warnaco is a large company, but about $800 million in sales in north america. us with about four billion. clearly gives scale and leverage to the calvin klein jeans and underwear business. >> you have a heritage business. in their call they talked about a heritage business. i would have thought tha